The Other I

November 9, 2016

umpty Trumpty

Filed under: Just Stuff — theotheri @ 4:46 pm
Well, “shock” is the word contained in almost every headline I’ve read since I got up this morning, barely ten minutes before Trump’s presidency and congressional majorities were confirmed beyond doubt.  Here in Britain, the response reminded me that several hundred thousand people signed a petition about a year ago asking Parliament to forbid Trump entrance to the UK on the grounds of his attitudes toward Muslims.  On the other hand, the Brexit vote here to withdraw from the European Union had a lot in common with the attitudes expressed by the Trump campaign.
I saw an interview yesterday with a highly reputable British pollster who said he wasn’t convinced by the polls predicting a Clinton win.  He said he thought there very well may be a meaningful number of people – including registered Democrats – who would not admit publicly that they were supporting Trump but who could very well swing the vote.  That sounded like a rather terrifying possibility to me, and so this morning when the results were clear, I was more shocked than surprised.
What I wonder now though is whether even those who feel they have been disenfranchised by the wave of immigrants coming into the States will actually be any better off as the result of the policies Trump & his Republican congress will implement.  Same question we are asking over here about those people who voted for Brexit on the grounds that immigration should be limited.
The thought that Trump will now be the deciding factor on the next Supreme Court judges – including replacing Scalia as soon as he gets into office – is scary as well.
Just read an article arguing that what the Trump voters really want is to re-establish White supremacy.  How strong that kind of racism is compared to a realistic sense of economic disenfranchisement by workers displaced by either migrant workers or international trade, I don’t know.  I suppose one might ask a similar question about British colonial rule.  Both US and UK governments, in my view, have under-estimated the resentment and done too little to solve very real problems of joblessness and the increasing gulf between the 2% and the shrinking middle class and stunted social mobility.  It’s not what Americans have been taught to believe is right for a country where hard work is promised to reap rewards.
My only (small) hope is that reality may force Trump to modify some of his worst promises and prejudices.  In any case, his election will certainly change attitudes of nations toward the U.S.  I remember back in 1969 an NYU professor  of political science said that China’s power lay partly in the fact that other countries simply did not know what to expect.  That is now true of the U.S.


  1. one journalist said it all earlier….I prarphraze…..Liberals took Trump literally but not seriously; his followers took him seriously but not literally”.
    Who is he really? A media mogul who loves the limelight. Someone who appears unserious and ill informed and narrow minded. The media has a huge part to play in this as he went unchallenged while they allowed him to take over the airwaves for more than a year with so many lies the fact check folks said he lied at least once in every less than four minutes! But who covers the fact checkers? Are they on the TV during and after his bloviations? I can’t spell check and re werite this ’cause our friends are so upset they don’t want to be alone and are coming over for an a.m. coffee. I live in hope and knowledge that our world has lots of bad things going on and we must do all we can to bring the light and love to those we can. The Holy Spirit still hovers bent over our poor suffering world with oh bright wings!!! WE are not alone tho we can’t really define the mystery. Better to light one candle than to curse the darkness!


    Comment by Beth — November 9, 2016 @ 5:18 pm | Reply

  2. i am numb and fluctuate between nausea and rage and shame (yes i know “between connotes two, not three objects. but these are extraordinary times) given brexit, i knew this was a very real possibility. so we now have a president who has an investigation on his trump university on his foundation the sexual aggressions will be forgiven he has all monies paid to him deposited to his foundation – and he he uses the foundation for his own use (all monies owed him have to have taxes paid by him prior to being put into the foundation and then he uses that money for his own personal use – the white house will be transformed into a duplication of his trump tower residence – a very bad Versailles Russia and Israel will be dancing in the streets – the end of the clean air endeavor, the pipe lines, women rights abortion, gay rights, supreme court-at least two seats – can ginsberg hold on much longer?? all of this in an age of selfies – oh i am just babbling i cannot believe we would elect this bully this egotistical fascist hitler was initially elected. is this the road we are going down? wish i had your faith, beth. in the meantime, i fear i am cursing the darkness!


    Comment by kateritek — November 10, 2016 @ 2:20 am | Reply

    • Oh Beth, I know. As you know, I too am appalled and frightened by the election results. But as I am searching for that candle to light, I keep trying to remind myself that we too are stumbling around in the darkness. The Trump voters aren’t all wrong — but boy, do I need that candle to see what I’m doing! Terry


      Comment by theotheri — November 10, 2016 @ 9:44 pm | Reply

    • As you might be able to guess from my post today (the day following the day election results hit us all), I too have been spending my time trying to think of how we can respond to this seemingly disastrous development. I’m hoping that just as Trump broke all the rules while he was campaigning, he will now break the rules and change his mind about implementing 95% of the things he promised. If he doesn’t, I suspect the people who voted for him are in for a bitter disappointment – at least if they think their own lives are going to be economically better off.

      Be interesting to be looking back in a year or so and see how things are playing out. Will we at least have begun some kind of dialogue or will we continue simply to call each other vile names? I’m an optimist, but I’m not risking a lot of money on the outcome…


      Comment by Terry Sissons — November 10, 2016 @ 9:52 pm | Reply

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